Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubs in 30 Days Result

June 12, 2009 By admin 65 Comments

The hubpage game has changed. Before you read this post then pepper me with questions about hubpages, please read my recent September 2010 Making Money with Hubpages updated post. All the information given in these hubpages posts are still relevant, but stuff has changed in terms of trying to make money with hubpages.

Ok guys, finished the 200 Hubs in 20 Days Experiment yesterday.

The hub challenge experiment:

Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubages in 30 Days 1
Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubages in 30 Days 2
Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubages in 30 Days 3
Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubages in 30 Days 4

So far, the hubpages experiment has been a great success. I’m still not making the adsense earnings Court has been posting, but mine have improved. And there was a big bonus as well. Let’s take a look:

Hub challenge Stats and Earnings

U1: First Update Post
U2: Second Update Post
U3: Third Update Post
U4: Fourth Update Post

-First Hubs published 31 days ago (May 11th)
- 240+ Hubs (U4: 180) (U3116) (U2:61) (U1:31)
-Word Count between 400-1000 words. The average would be about 600 to 650
- Total Hubpage views: 9,607 (U4: 5,829) (U3: 2484) (U2: 831) (U1:418)
- Total Visitors: 5,531 (U4: 3,071) (U3: 1100) (U2: 272) (U1:117)
- Total Unique Visitors: 4,327 (U4: 2,086) (U3: 736) (U2:119)(U1:15)
- Google Search Traffic: (U4: 3,017) (U3: 635) (U2: 119) (U1: 35)
- Yahoo Search Traffic: 1,346 (U4: 647) (583) (185) (U3: 227) (U2: 33)(U1: 7)
- 64 (28) AOL visits 65 (U4: 37 )(U3:16)
- Ezine Article Visitors: 280 (U4: 96)
-Clicks per update: 135 (82) (31) (7)
- Adsense Earnings between each update period: $114.82 (U3 to U4:$73) (U2 to U3: $26) (U1 to U2: $2.44)

Average per click: $.82
Average daily earnings: $7.22

Total Clicks: 271
Total Adsense Earnings: $224
Total EBay Affiliate Sales: $134
Total Earnings $224 Adsense + 134 EBay Affiliate sales = $354

Hubpages Challenge Results Discussion

So, let’s talk money. As you see, I’ve managed to score some ebay affiliate sales. The past week, I’ve generated 134 bucks from ebay. Very cool. I did slap on EBay links on 50% of my hubs, so it may be that even if they didn’t make any Adsense clicks, they still generated affiliate sales. I didn’t really focus on affiliate sales, but I see there is some serious potential here. With all the long tail targeted traffic, it’s worth it throw in some ebay links. What I’m not sure of is whether I should dedicate a hub only to affiliate sales or slap on the adsense too. If you want to make a hub geared toward affiliate sales, it changes the whole adsense strategy — I’m thinking CRT would go way down.

This is interesting because it shows that you can make decent money without Adsense. The thing is, you need a lot of impressions for affiliate sales. The more hubs you have in targeted niches, the more you can score it with affiliate sales. Now, we have to see what happens this next month to see if these are a regular occurrence. But for now, I wanted to let you all know that you can get some money from ebay on your Hubpages. It’s nice to see several of those “no performer” hubs did indeed bring in some bacon to the tune of $134. Not bad!

As you see, I’ve earned a total of $224 in 31 days in Adsense revenue from Hubpages. Now, I know I’m not going to quit my job with this, but there is a lot of potential here. If you track my earnings over each update, you’ll see a progression. My first 30 hubs gave me a grand total of about $1 for about 6 days. My second update showed me at 61 hubs with $2.44 after a good 11 days. Now this was disheartening to say. But things start to get interesting around the third update. At about 116 or so hubs I made about $28 dollars after 19 days. By the 4th update, I had made over 100 bucks. By the end of the challenge a week later, I made about $225.

You will notice the trend upward? Each week has brought more money. In fact, if you look at the figures, you will see that there were big increases each week in earnings.

Now, there are a few things to consider. I have been continually adding more and more hubs, the hubs have been aging, and the past 4 days I’ve been adding external backlinks to 50% of my hubs. I want to have ever hub backed by with backlinks by the end of the week.

My average has been about $7 a day, but you have to take into account that for the first 2 weeks, I made only a couple dollars. It was really the last 2 weeks that saw about 95% of my earnings.

These days, I have been averaging about 15 or so dollars a day. It’s been getting higher. Update 4 was giving me a solid 10 bucks a day in Hubpage earnings, and a few 12-14 dollar days. I’ve now been seeing 13-17 dollar days on average. My hub earnings the past week have not really dipped down below 11 dollars a day. My best day was 3 days ago, which gave me a very cool $27 from hubs. This was followed by a 13 dollar day, which was then followed by a $17 dollar day. Today (4pm my time), I’m sitting at about $14 in Hubpages. There is a pretty good chance this will hit 16-20 dollars by the end of today.
These challenge has been such a sucess that I will continue to add hubs. My goal from now is to add 50 new hubs a month, maybe more. I would like to have about 500-1000 hubs. I expect I will earn quite a bit from those — maybe enough for a full time income (3-5k a month). My immediete goal is to make 50 bucks a day. I am near the $20 mark right now (even had close to $30 one day), so I am excited to so how the hubs to this next month once aging and my backlink work begins to set in. Continually adding more hubs will only increase the revenue. Hubs are also create as a “niche” spy. You create some hubs (10-20) in a niche, send a couple backlinks and test to see if you start to get clicks. If you make money, there is a big chance you can make a hell of a lot more money if you open your own self hosted niche site and get it near the top of the SERP’s. This save a lot of wasted time, since the domain authority of hubpages let’s you fast track to see if niches have potential. Now, you can never be sure how you’ll do unless you are on the front page of google for a term, but hubs do give you a pretty good idea if a niche has some value.

Trends
-Hubs may (or may not) have an initial burst of traffic the first few days then the traffic decreases. Traffic begins to pick up again 2 weeks later. The initial burst can be explained by Google fresh content bonus and other hubbers coming to check out your hubs.

-Hubs don’t generally start to generate clicks (at least for me) until a week or more. I am having hubs get clicks now that never had clicks the past 3 weeks. I assume because there are starting to rise or stabilize in the SERP’s. Keep in mind it’s too early still. We need a couple months for things to settle down. This is why I fully expect my average income, even if I don’t build backlinks or add new hubs, to rise. This phenomena is just part of Google’s algorithm. The older the website is, the higher it naturally seems to rank in the SERP’s.

-Sunday has usually been pretty bad performer, though there has been one exception for me

-Most of my clicks seem to come between 9 – 3 and decrease. It’s not uncommon for me to get 12-15 bucks between 9-3, and then only see a dollar or two more by the end of the day. Nights are a crapshoot. I’ve had a couple days where I’ve made 7 bucks between 12 am – 8 am. Now, I’d say I average 2-3 bucks while sleeping. I expect this to go up this next month though.

Now, you will notice, if you followed Court’s update, that he’s been hitting in the 20’s for the past two updates. I’ve had one very nice 20 dollar day, but that’s been it. I know of one other person who is regularly cracking the 20’s. You will note that I have almost 250 hubs out there and I am not regularly cracking the 20’s yet. I am expecting to reach the 20’s regularly this next month. It’s my aim to get into the 50’s within a couple months.

This comes down to niche selection. This is my experience, 90% of the hubs you find won’t make you anything. Out of my nearly 250 hubs, I think only about 30% of them actually have gotten a click, and of those only a fraction get regular clicks. I’d say about 75% of my total earnings come from a handful of hubs.

Which is why you need to have a lot of hubs if you want to make 10+ bucks a day. I’d say you need roughly about 100 or so hubs before you stumble across some niches that do well. With 100 hubs, you should be getting at least 3 bucks a day just from random clicks. If you have the right niches, right off the bat, well, you could have 30 hubs giving you 20 bucks a day.

So far, I’m happy with my $324 bucks this month from hubpages. Although it’s a month, It’s more like I made $320 bucks the last TWO WEEKS, since I didn’t score any affiliate sales or much Adsense clicks the first two weeks.

I will post another update in 1 month tracking my Hubpage Adsense earnings and affiliate sales. I’m predicting it should be MUCH better this next month.

Tips for How to Make Money with Hubs Using Adsense

I’ve spent hours giving advice about how to make money with hubs, so I’m not going to give anything new here. In the past 5 updates, I’ve spent 10k words telling showing you how I made money on Hubpages. Folks, there is NO other how to make money with Hubpage tutorial as detailed on the web. I won’t bother going over it again in detail. But I’ll summarize some of the main things you need to do to make money with hubs in 5 steps.

Create a lot of hubs (at least 75)

If you’ve read what I talk about above, most hubs you make won’t earn anything. Oh, given enough time they’ll get a click here or there, but they won’t consistently get clicks. I have hubs that get 70 people a day and only get 2 clicks for 5 cents and I have other hubs that get 2 people a day and 1 click that’s worth a dollar or more.

If you have a bunch of hubs that don’t bring in any consistent earnings, they still have value. You can use them as a link farm and they will bring in a little money. Sure, if a hub brings in .50 cents a week, that’s not a lot, but when you have 300 hubs, each bringing in .25 cents a week, that’s $75 bucks a week, or $300 a month. These little, occasional clicks do count for something when you get a lots of them. This means a lot of hubs.

Write about specific niche topics

It’s my experience that the more specific the topic, the higher the chance of getting a click. This means writing about “hand cream for dry skin” will likely do better than “hand cream” and “Pond’s hand cream for dry skin” will do even better than “hand cream for dry skin.” Now, this can vary from niche to niche. But in some niches, getting very specific – even putting the specific brand name into keyword phrase, can increase your CTR. I believe this is because people find your site when looking for a specific product and if you write something good about the product, they may click on an ad.

IF you write about a specific topic, you WILL get some clicks. But folks, please fucking pick a topic that there is some reason to click on an ad. Grandma’s Peach Cobbler Recipe Guide WON’T generate clicks. “Best Skin Care Treatments for Acne” WILL.

This is key for both getting Adsense clicks or affiliate sales – you need to be very specific. The more specific, the less traffic you get, but the higher the CTR. It’s also a hell of a lot easier to rank for a long tail then it is for a shorter tail.

Write the Right (Bad) Way

I’ve found that how you write can make a big difference. Now I’ve been posting how to write for Adsense the past few updates. I’ve told you shouldn’t answer the damn question. But, this doesn’t give you license to write like shit. Your sentences should be coherent and well formed and things should make sense. The trick is to write good in a way that is bad. Beat around the bush, brush around the answer, giving hints but not actually answering. Give suggestions about finding the product online or going to websites about the product/service etc. The point is that you want to plant suggestions that the user should fucking click on that relevant ad a few inches away from the sentence talking about it.

Send Backlinks to Your Hubs

Interlink each hubs, use go articles, Ezine articles, infobarrel, squidoo lenses, go articles, whatever. The point is that you want to give your hubs as much of a boost in the SERP’s as possible. You can do this by sending links. I’ll talk more about this in my How to Make Money Online eBook I promised I’d make.

There are two ways you can increase your earnings with your hubs: make more of them or start getting each of them ranked up high with backlinks. It’s more efficient to get them ranked high with backlinks than it is to create a lot more hubs. Ideally though, you want to do both.

My advice is to imagine that each hubs are a blog post/webpage on your own domain. What do you do if you want that post or article to rank high? Send backlinks to it. Same deal. I’ve shown you by working my ass off for the past month that you can generate between 10-20 bucks a day without much in the way of external backlink work. But ultimately, if you want to really make more money with hubs, you need to work the backlinks just like you would for a niche site.

Be Patient

It takes some time to make money with hubs. Yes, you can make money pretty much right away, but finding the right niches and getting enough hubs to do so will take a lot of work.

Why am I not making money with Hubpages?

If you have 50 or more hubs and are not making money, one or more of these is probably the problem:

1. You are not writing about specific topics.
2. Your niches’ CPC is crap. Look for CPC over 2 bucks (you get 20% of CPC)
3. You don’t have enough hubs
4. You are not interlinking your hubs

How to Increase Hubpage Adsense Revenue

Ah, I am going to be spending the next month or two experimenting with this. I’ll toss a couple strategies out there for you to increase your existing Hubpage revenue if you have any.

Boost the Money Long Tails to Your Best Hubs
For some hubs, you will notice you get consistent clicks each day or couple days. If you notice a trend, open up analytics and look at what ENTERANCE keywords that hub is getting. I don’t have my analytics with Adsense linked (I do, but it’s not working). I try to identify what the money long tails are and send backlinks to them. If Hub A get’s 5 clicks, I want to find out what long tail is brining them to that hubs. I open analytics and look at the entrance keywords used to find that hub the same day of those 5 clicks. I generally take a look at all the longtails used to find the hub then if one stand out as a longtail that would bring in someone who would click, I send backlinks to that hub with that long tail in the anchor text. If I notice a hub has say 20 people, and one or two keywords that are not the main keyword are brining in traffic, I send backlinks from other hubs and external sites to that hub using that backlink.

What will this do? This will help you bring in more targeted traffic to your money hubs and help (hopefully) boost your daily revenues. I’ve been doing these to my hubpages.

Optimize Hubs by Adding More Longtails
If you have hub generating money, you should try to optimize it by a) keyword stuffing and b) increase the size of your content. This means looking for some related terms in the niche and editing your post to include this new long tails. If you post is 500 words and generating you 3 bucks a day, add another 1000 words to it – you will be giving more longtails for Google to rank.

Optimize Hubs for Targeted Ads
I find that sometimes a hub does NOT show relevant ads. If this is the case, you should go through it and put money making keyword close to the ads to try to “encourage” the ads to show relevant ads. If you have a niche that should be getting good paying clicks but getting .05-.20 cents instead, it’s probably because the ads are not relevant to the content and keywords.

How to Make Money with Hubpages mini Ebook

I’m also going to start working on my mini ebook (10k or so words) tutorial next week. I’ve been talking about a tutorial post the past few posts, but I think an ebook format would be perfectly suited for this tutorial. What is it exactly? It’s going to be a comprehensive tutorial about how to start from scratch with hubpages and make money in a month’s time.

You can get most of the information from the 5 hubpage challenge posts, but if you are looking for a much easier to read, tutorial format, the ebook will be better. Now I can’t say you will make 20 bucks a day (I’m not even making that consistently yet — but I will), but you will make something and with enough work, you will be able to make great money with hubpages.

I’ll add some new information in it and throw in stuff I learn over the next month from improving my hubpages. We could called it Make Money Online with Hubpages. Should be a great place for people new to hubpages to start. I’m probably going to just give it away for free, though I am thinking about charging a nominal fee like $1, considering it will take like a week of writing to create, not to mention 400+ hours of actually working on hubs trying to learn this stuff. People in the MMO world don’t appreciate free for some reason. But, we’ll see.

Why People Will Never Make Money Online

I’ve been reading the hubpage forums and other MMO foums and following people’s performance. Thousand of people entered this Hub Challenge. Court started it but the people at Hubpages started promoting the challenge as well. You know how many people actually completed the 100 hubs? I count 4 people. That’s it. These four people were out of the hundreds of people who follow the whole Make Money Online scheme. I can’t say how many “hubbers” on Hubpages finished it, but I can bet you 100 bucks that almost none of them did. I looked through the forums checking, and I didn’t see anyone posting that they have. Oh, people did finish the 30 in 30 days, but I’ve yet to see anyone with a 100 in 30 days. And you know what? The Hubpage forums are full of hubbers wanting to make money but concluding that it’s impossible or will take years. Bullshit.

Most hubbers don’t know how to make money because they don’t know jack about niche marketing as taught by Court and Grizzly. They also don’t want to work hard.

Work is what separates those who will make money online and those who will dream about making money online. I’m going to make money online. I’m going to make a hell of a fucking lot of money online. Why? Because I am not afraid to work, I’m not afraid of spending every spare minute writing god damn boring articles, or spending days trying to get backlinks.

THIS is how you make money on the internet folks. It’s by knowing a method of making money online that actually works and by fucking working like a dog.

A lot of people are afraid to actually make websites or hubs because “what if I don’t make any money after I put that work in.” Then go work at fucking McDonalds and get the fuck off my blog.

What’s really disturbing is that thousands of people around the world watched as Court posted his earnings proving that you can make some great money on hubpages. However, I am absolutley bowled over that this didn’t encourage people to jump on the hubpage challenge like Cops would grab a bucketfull of free donuts.

Would you sell your life for a month to make a guarenteed 1000 bucks a month (at least) for the rest of your life? Apparently, the answer is no for most people. I’m not saying you would make 100 bucks a month, but the point is, you have a very big chance to actually start making some permenent online income.

I see a lot of people claiming that they don’t want to make 100 hubs because something may happen to the Hubpage scheme in the future etc. Folks, this is why there are people sitting at home, watching TV and eating cheetos, lying to themselves that they are going to become millionaires in a couple years. Then there is the person who is actually fucking mortgaging his house and working 18 hours a day to realize a dream. Who do you thing is more likely to make it?

Guys, I’m not trying to bash you if you didn’t finish the 100 hubs in 30 days. Shit crops up in life, the kids need to be tucked in, and the dog needs to be walked. I get that. But it really shows me something about MMO. 95% of the people who talk the talk don’t walk the walk. It’s easy about talking about how to make money, its different story actually doing the work to make the money. The point is, you have to move past all this shit if you want to make money. Sure, you can always do 100 hubs in 3 months rather than a month.

But that’s not the point. Many of you told yourself you were going to do 100 in 30 days or maybe even publically posted it. But you didn’t do it! Folks, if you set yourself a challenge you need to fucking meet it head on. The people who created 100 in 30 days are far more likely to make that 20k a year doing MMO rather than drop out disillusioned after 6 months of not making money. Why? Because they are willing to push through crap, work, and other problems to make it happen.

I spend 12 hours a day at work. I spend my entire Saturdays at a school studying another language. A good portion of my Sunday is booked up doing physical labor. But in 31 days I’ve written over 240 hubs, 60 Ezine articles, and 5 fucking massive posts on my blog about how to make money online with Hubpages. So when I hear excuses like ‘I didn’t have enough time, or I was too busy”, I don’t fucking believe it.

So there we go, rant over. If you didn’t complete the challenge fair enough — I’m not judging you. I admit it’s hard as hell to write 100+ articles you don’t care about. There’s always next time for a challenge. But at the very least, I hope my efforts motivate you to work harder. The entire point of this blog is to show you, through my own elbow grease, that if you work your ass off, work harder than 99% of the other people, you can make money online.

Ben’s 100 Squidoo Lenses in 14 days Challenge

Hot on the heels of this Hubpages challenge, I have a “mini challenge.” I’ve made money with Hubpages in a month. Can I also make money with Squidoo? I’m going to find out this question myself.

Now, the whole theory behind Hubpages and Squidoo is quite different, as is the revenue sharing. Hubpages tries to keep everything internal. They dont want you linking out and they won’t let you put any affiliate links into your hubs. Squidoo actually encouages linking out, believing that the squidoo lens should be a gateway to your websites.

The revenue sharing is different as well. Hubpages gives you 60% of the impressions with your Adsense ID. Squidoo doesn’t give you your Adsense earnings, instead putting it into a public pot and shares with all Squidoo users depending on Payrank and your traffic.

This tells me that I don’t think generating Adsense revenue will be as viable on Squidoo pages as they are on Hubpages. I’m not sure if I can get my Payrank up to the point where I get reasonable Adsense earnings. Squidoo does, however, let you keep 100% affiliate commission. I don’t believe Squidoo has the “instant” ranking and indexing advantages that Hubpages does.

As such, I’m going to focus more on affiliate sales and articles geared around selling things then getting Adsense clicks. This is going to be radically different and I’m not sure how well it will turn out. I think I’ll make 50 lenses geared towards Adsense and 50 for affiliate sales.

I don’t think I will be making as much money with Squidoo as with Hubpages, but I want to find out what’s possible. I might even try to make money with info barrel as well.

I’m stoked about this idea. I’ve proven I can make money with Hubpages and now it’s time to try and cut my teeth with Squidoo. The worst case scenario is that I won’t make any money (unlikely, I should make something with 100 lenses). But even a loss is a win because I’ll have 100 strong Squidoo lenses I can use to support other niches sites and my Hubpage hubs. So, no loss.

Sigh, another grizzly-length post. Damn it. Next post will be 250 words, I swear it!

Ben Out

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Make Money Online With Hubpages: 200 Hubs in 30 Days Update IV

June 6, 2009 By admin 45 Comments

The hubpage game has changed. Before you read this post then pepper me with questions about hubpages, please read my recent September 2010 Making Money with Hubpages. All the information given in these hubpages posts are still relevant, but stuff has changed in terms of trying to make money with hubpages.

It’s been a great week for my hubpages. I’m not going to retire on my hub earning any time soon, but I’ve seen consistent earnings, day in and day out since my last update. If you don’t have an account, you need to get on over and sign up for a hubpage account and start making money!

Summary of Stats
Note: brackets are last week’s stats. If two brackets, the second bracket is week before last:

-First Hubs published 25 days ago
-180 Hubs (116) (61)
-Word Count between 400-1000 words. The average would be about 650
-Hubpage views 4635 (1900)
- 2,774 total/ 2,086 unique (834/618)
-1,627 Google visits (509)
-583 Yahoo visits (185)
-28 AOL visits (12)
-87 Ezine Articles (0)
-82 clicks total (31) (7)
-$73 ($26) ($2.44)
-Adsense amount of time of writing: 13 bucks – June 5, 11:30 pm

I also made 60 bucks yesterday from my ebay affiliate links. I am not sure if it was from the ebay links in some of my hubs or from a couple other ebay niche sites I have.

Result Discussion
Ok let’s discuss the results. As you can see from last week, there has been a BIG increase in both the traffic and the click rate and money earned. Now, we can explain some of the changes due to the number of hubs that I pushed out. But, you may notice that the figures keep on getting higher and higher. For example, last week’s update I had 509 visitors. 7 days later, I now have over 3 times that amount. Same with clicks, I’ve had almost 3 times the number of clicks. I’ve only added about 60 more hubs in that time.

What accounts for this? Aging. You are seeing the effects aging on the hubs. The older the hubs are, the higher up in the rankings they are moving, and subsequently, the more traffic I’m getting. I hope this gives some of you who just start a couple hubs and despair when you only see 1 or 2 people a day. The longer your hubs age, the more traffic they should pull in. This is also one reason why I am confident I’ll be making more money next month than I did this month. I don’t know if my earning will be more next week (Court’s earnings dipped quite a bit this current update), but I suspect in a months’ time, I should be making more.

Now, let’s talk about the money. I went through my reporting for the last update and found I was off by like 5 bucks (I counted an extra day). I changed the tally and put them in brackets next to my stats so you can compare.

But as you can see, in 7 days (counting today), I’ve made almost 73 dollars (rounded up). That’s a mite over 10 dollars average a day. My top day was about 14 or 15 bucks and my lowest day was 3 bucks (Sunday). As you can see, in 7 days I have tripled my earnings from last week. Last week, I had about 26 bucks, which was about 9 times the amount I had the week before (3 bucks). As you see, it’s only getting MUCH better. Now, I don’t suspect I’ll get double the earnings next week (final week). But, I believe I’ll get more, maybe around the 100 or so range, but we’ll see. I’ll have another 40-50 hubs out there and all my hubs will be even older.

Now, an interesting note. Near the beginning of the experiment, I singled out 5 niches and I spammed them with links from Article Marketing Automation and Unique Article Wizard. I think I must have sent out like 10 AMA articles for each hub and a couple UAW articles. I also added a few links in Connect Content. Now, I didn’t see an improvement in the traffic I was getting right away. But after about a week I noticed the sites were getting the most traffic out of all my hubs. Now, they are blowing my other hubs away in terms of traffic. The top one is getting about 50 uniques a day from google and the other 4 are pretty close. In comparison, I have a lot of other hubs that only get 10 or even 2 people a day.

What does that mean? You can really lever backlink services to give your hubs an boost in traffic. It may take a few weeks for you to notice, but it’s well worth doing. Now, as an experiment, I really spammed the links to those 5 hubs. I wouldn’t normally do this for a niche site, but my theory was that hubpages has a lot of domain authority and links to the parent domain, so I figured you could get away with sending as many links as you want. So far, it seems to have worked.

The past week, I have been backing my hubs up with links from article directories. So far, I think about 50 of the 180 hubs have article directory links to them. After I finish my hubs, I’m going to spend a solid 4 days backing every single hub up with directory links and a run of UAW, BS, AMA, and Book Marking Demon, as well as a few other “tools” I have in my linking arsenal. We’ll see how that pans out for my revenue later.

How to Make Money With Hubpages

Ok, since I’ve been giving out advice about how to make money with hubs my last 3 updates, I’ll continue the trend, sharing what I’ve learned. I’m giving out new information here that I didn’t talk about in the other updates.

Backup all hub pages with backlinks
Treat each home like a niche blog/website post that you want to rank for a term. This means sending backlinks to each hub. As I previously stated, I sent a lot of backlinks from Article Marketing Automation to several of my hubs; they are now my most visited hubs. This means using your hub for link exchanges, sending article directory links to it, using backlink networks to send links, etc. The more links, the higher your hubs will rank. Now, I do suggest that you don’t overdo it. Google may penalize you. As always, you should try to vary your anchor text in each link.

Choose the Right Niches
Now there are a million niches out there and this is the hardest part. My advice is to stick with long tails. “cancer cures” may be a great niche, but you can bet a few other million internet marketers feel the same thing. It’s must better to go for something like “Cure cancer with natural remedies” or something like this. The longer the tail, the less traffic and also the more targeted traffic. The more targeted the traffic, the higher your CTR will be (ad click rate).

And folks, don’t pick the same generic long tails EVERY other marketer things of. This means don’t bother with “how to cure cancer” or “cystic acne treatments” or “how to lose weight.”

Pick a niche that has some potential, pull out some paper, and write down phrases you might type to find some sort of solution or answer to a problem in that niche. You can come up with some phrases that are off the beaten track. These phrases, lo and behold, may have a good CPC and a decent amount of traffic. These are what I call good “low competition” niches.

I’ve been finding that creating hubs about specific products often leads to clicks. For example, creating a hub about “Pond’s Moisturizing Face Cream for Women” may more often than not lead to a click than “face cream for women.” This is especially if the ads are targeted. Mind you, the product you target should solve some sort of problem.

Create Lots of Hubs
Guys, if you are participating in the 30 hubs in 30 days challenge, pack up and go home. You are not going to see any income with that. Yes, yes, there are a couple people here that were making good money with 40 or so hubs. Court for one and Joshua (see comments on my other updates). But both of them have a good deal of experience and the majority of you don’t. I say plan on creating at least 100 hubs if you want to see some fast income. I’m not saying you can’t make good money with 30 hubs IF YOU SEND BACKLINKS, but I don’t think you’ll be pulling in 5 bucks a day with that. But, I’d love to be proven wrong here, so feel free to tell me I’m wrong – if you are.

A final tip here, don’t fucking make 30 or so hubs in the exact same niche unless you are making money in it. I’ve seen a couple people who created 30 or so hubs about a single topic and they weren’t getting a single click. I suggest throwing as many hubs in different niches as possible. You have a much better chance of not screwing yourself over by creating 100 hubs in a dead end niche. But, a few hubs in a niche are good.

Create Multiple Hubs in the Same Niche
I suggest when creating hubs, you throw out 3-5 hubs per each niche. For example, “cure cancer with aspirin”, “how to cure cancer with maple syrup”, and “best way to cure cancer fast”, “treat cancer with Advil”, “Cheap cancer scans.” Since they are all related, you can use them to send good, relevant backlinks to each other. You also have a higher chance of “testing’ out a niche to see if there is potential. Four of the hubs may be losers, but one might start scoring clicks.

Optimize Keywords for Adsense
I’ve found sometimes the ads present in a hub don’t actually match the content. You may have to go back and tinker with your text a bit. I’ve found changing the keywords in the title or in the paragraph next to the ads may help trigger ads relating to your site. I suggest before you actually create a hub about a niche, you type the keyword phrase into Google to see what ads pop up on the right hand side. If there are no ads, you won’t be getting much in the way of targeted ads. For example, if you niche is about “How to Cure Cancer With Antibiotics”, you will score the most clicks from ads contain something close to your keyword phrase. If you’ve done everything right, someone found your site by typing in a long tail related to your keyword. If the ads also contain that keyword or something close, it’s laser targeted and this will be more likely to click.

Now, if the ads start to show “cancer treatments” and “cancer advice” and “cancer peer group,” the person who found your site by typing “how to cure cancer with antibiotics” probably won’t be as inclined to click the ads.

Now, I know you can’t exactly control what ads are displayed and the best you can do is to have keywords that the ads can pick out and use, but at the very least, think twice about making a niche hub that doesn’t have very many relevant ads.

Write for Adsense
I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again: don’t answer the fucking question when you write your hubs. A few people have been sending me hubs to look at, and let me say folks, you are spending way too much time. ALL you need to do is write content that will pass a visual from a Google engineer. That means making sure the text actually is relevant to the webpage and is readable by a human. This month, I think I’ll devote a post giving writing instructions about how to write poorly so you make money with Adsense 

This is my personal way of doing it with hubs:

INTRO <–bland but gets the point across. I always have the keyword phrase I am targeting in here, either t op line or end of intro paragraph.
BODY1 <–talk about WHY the reader should look online to find a product, or encourage reader to look online
for the best deal, etc. This ENCOURAGES reader to look for a solution in the ads. Hopefully, they
just see how shitty and uniformative your post is and beat it the hell out of your site, through one of
the ads you have subliminally encouraged them to click.
BODY2 <–more blather, somewhat informative. use keyword once.
PICTURE
CONCLUSION <-might actually say something useful here. Use keyword and related longtails
EBAY/AMAZON (if relevant to niche)
NEWSFEED (can give related longtails)
LINKS (add a couple to wikipedia. Looks more legit)
COMMENTS

Now you might note that I try to “help” people click on the ad write away. Folks this doesn’t mean you tell them to click on the ad. You will get your ass banned right out of adsense for good. I mean, if you niche is about treating cancer with wool sock home remedies, explain to them why they should look online for more information or to find the best deal on the product etc. I have noticed a higher CTR by doing this, but you’ll just have to see if it works for you. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t.

As for placing the actual adsense ads, I’ve talked about this before. But I suggest you take a look at Lissie’s Adsense Placement hub for an informative look on how to position adsense for best results.

Now, I believe content does not matter at all for ranking. I know Grizzly hammers this across a lot and from what I see, it’s true. Good content is always better than poor content, but good content also take a hell of a lot of time to write. In the time that it takes to write a well crafted article that’s actually worth reading, I can blast off 5 shitty articles that will draw in more clicks than the good article ever will. If you are trying to make money with Adsense, you don’t want good writing folks. If you are trying to score affiliate sales or get people to join your member’s club or something, or get props from other bloggers about how “intelligent” you are, then write good content. If you are trying to create a strong flagship blog, write good content. If you are trying to make money online with niche marketing sites, write shitty, terrible, horrible content that is just good enough not to be tossed out as spam.

This blog is actually my one attempt to provide somewhat decent, if badly spelled, content to attracted natural links. I’m not putting any work into SEO for this site, because, well, I’m not trying to make any money with it. I like doing it Grizzly style – free information! But I’m keen to see if by providing good, compelling and useful content, I can attract a fair amount of natural links.

Make Money with Hubpages without Ranking for the Main Keyword
So I’ve decided to tell you a dirty little secret about make money with hubpages. I suppose I could keep this to myself, but, I’m in the giving mood tonight. Or maybe it’s that I’ve written almost 20 hubs and 5 ezines today and I’m too fucking tired to be greedy. Either way, your benefit.

I’ve discovered that you don’t really need to rank at all for you keyword phrase to make money with hubpages. You see, hubpages gives your hub enough authority to quickly rank for long tails. I don’t mean long tails that you target in your titles and posts, but natural longtails that just occur when you write. You can rank very high for these long tails because of hubpages’ domain authority. Now, I suspect that if you were to create 100, 1 article blogger blogs, you wouldn’t get nearly the same traffic as you would putting those same 100 articles up as 100 different hubs. This is why you can make money with hubpages without really doing any serious backlink work. I’ve making over 10 bucks a day like this.

Now there are a few stipulations here.

1. You need a hell of a lot of hubs to get enough money (I’d say 75-125 hubs. The more the more $ you
make)
2. You need to pick the right niches that actually will click on ads

Now, folks, I’m getting clicks by making hubs in niches I have no hope in hell of ranking for. For example, If I make a site about “how to cure cancer”, I would rightly expect not to be ranked very high (or at all) for that term, and not without months of backlinks work. I am certainly not going to put months of work into trying to get a hub niche ranked #1 for something like that; I would want my own self hosted blog up there so I have more control and keep all the money.

BUT, if you stuff your post with enough related longtails, you can attract Google search long tail traffic that is targeted to the same niche — people who will still click on the ads. So, while someone typing in “how to cure cancer” may not (in fact, won’t) find my site, someone typing in “how to cure cancer with vitamins” might. There is a pretty good chance that person will click on an ad — especially if your long ass post (and it should be long if you want to make this strategy effective) mentions somewhere that vitamins can cure cancer. Even if you don’t mention vitamins, you have still got a reader who is looking for how to cure cancer — a topic your post should be about.

If really long tail traffic is finding your site, it’s usually pretty targeted. Note, this long tail strategy only works for some niches. I have some niches with a lot of traffic and few clicks, and other hubs with few traffic and a lot of clicks. You will just have to make a hundred or so hubs to find out which niches work and which don’t.

If you want to make money with long tail traffic, you need to have long posts to maximize the longtail traffic. The more you talk about, the more longtails google can rank you for. Don’t expect to get as many long tails from a 250 word hub as a 1000 word beast. I’d probably aim for about 700-800 words per hub, if you want long tail traffic.

Now, I have to be careful telling you this, as you could end up in trouble. I am not saying create every single hub in a niche you can’t and won’t ever rank for. But I’m saying if you think you have a winning phrase that might pick up some clicks, but there are a bunch of PR 4/5 blogs sitting at the top of the serps, make it anyways. You’ll still get an occational click if you set it up right.

But, if you only have 100 hubs, and you create all 100 hubs in niches you have no chance of dominating, then you will only ever be getting trickle long tail traffic. While this may provide you with a bit of an income if you have a lot of hubs, it’s going to be less effective over the long run because you won’t be dominating the search engines for those phrases. And folks, you want to be in the top 5. Instead of getting a paltry 5 bucks a day from 100 hubs catching long tail traffic, you’ll get 5 bucks a day from 1 hub alone.

I just want you to be aware that you may still make some money with hubs, even if you are not ranking. I’ll go after a long tail phrase that looks good if I think I can score a couple occasional clicks. If spending 20 minutes writing an article can bring in a .50 or a buck every week, the effort was well worth the time. You should try to make most of your hubs in uncompetitive niches so you can dominate them with backlink work and get more money.

And there were some more tips, but fuck it. I’ve spend 2 hours writing this damn post and I’m not getting paid to do it. I’ll post one more update next Wednesday or Thursday, wrapping up the 200 hubs in 30 day challenge/experiment. I’m going to see if I can crank out 250 hubs actually, but I’ll see how it goes. I’ve also been promising a big ass tutorial “How to Make Money Online with Hubpages” that compiles everything I’ve talked about the past 4 posts with some other useful tidbits all packed into a “tutorial” format.

Anyways, I hope you found this post useful. If you found it useful,you can pay me back by sending a backlink from a blog ;)

Again, this has turned into another hulking monster of a post. I’m beginning to despair of ever writing a post here that’s less than 3000 words.

Ben

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Make Money Online with HubPages: 200 Hubs in 30 Days Update III

May 29, 2009 By admin 46 Comments

Ok, a bit behind on my schedule. I’ll cut it all down to a single phrase: Hubpages, do it. You can make money.

This is the third update so far and let’s take a brief look at my stats:

-First Hubs published 18 days ago
-116 Hubs
-Word Count between 400-1000 words. The average would be about 800
-Hubpage views 1900
-834 Unique Visitors/618 absolute unique
-509 Google visits
-185 Yahoo visits
-12 AOL (does this even exist?) visits
-33 clicks total
-Approx revenue made as of writing: 32 dollars. 28 of that made this week.
-Hubpage revenue made while sleeping and this morning (as I write this at 12 noon): 12 bucks.

Summary of Progress

For the first 40 hubs, I made a dollar or two. By hub 70 I had made 3 dollars. But then I finally figured out how to make money with hubs and from hub 70-116, I’ve made about 21 dollars.

Now, there are a few others that are having more success than I. Court for one only had like 70 or so hubs and made roughly 100 bucks last week. Joshua (see comments) is making 7 or so bucks a day. I’ve made 20 bucks in about 5 days. I had a 5 dollar day, a 4 dollar day, a 3 dollar day, a 1 dollar day, a 4 dollar day, a .50 day, and a 7 dollar day.

Yea, I know I’m not going to retire on this, but I’m pretty impressed since I’ve just started to get these earnings as of Sunday. Now that I’ve kind of figured out what to do, I’m getting some consistent earnings. I expect these earning to go up over the next 100 hubs I create, since I’ve know what to look for and have an idea how to make money with hubs now. Keep in mind these earnings will only go up as the domains age and as I begin to send some backlinks. At about 4-5 bucks a day, that’s not a bad PERMENT income for a good solid 2 weeks of full time work. Sure, you might make a couple thousand of dollars spending that time working for someone, but getting 5 bucks a day for the rest of your life more than makes of for that. And of course, you will start to make more as the domains age and SERP’s improve.

Here is what I’ve found in the course of my 2 and a half weeks writing hubs.

How to Make Money with Hubpages

Content=more traffic
However, you can still get clicks with shorter , 300-400 work articles. I think if you want to max your search traffic and start sending backings to hubs, more content is better over the long term. But don’t think you need to write 800-1000 word beasts for each hub. I did a solid 30 or so hubs like this then said screw it and started writing 600 word hubs. Now, I think I’ll just go with 400-500 word shorties. I’d rather churn out 2 different hubs than a long single hub. IF I was trying to dominate a niche, than I would have long posts, but in this case, shorter is ok.

Keep Layout Simple
Videos, links to authority pages, pictures. Don’t need em. Sure, if you want to invest some quality time in a informative hub, ad them. Too much “stuff” can distract the user from doing what you want him to do: clicking on an ad. Layout is important though.

Optimize Hubpage Layout for Adsense
The most effective layout is using the standard hub layout. You don’t want to have a picture at the top of the hub. This means you will have the title, followed by a horizontal square of ads. You always have a large rectangular ad box immediately to your right. This helps to surround the initial paragraph with a “box” of ads. It’s really easy for someone to click an ad here. Since your articles should be highly focused, nice-based articles, you should score occasional converting clicks here. I’ve also found is having the following format:

TEXT
PICTURE
TEXT
EBAY/AMAZON
COMMENTS
LINKS

Now I haven’t scored any affiliate sales from eBay or Amazon yet, so I can’t really state too much about making money with these on Hubpages. However, if I am talking about a specific product, there is no reason why you cant add eBay links to the product. They might buy it. Initially, for my first 40-50 hubs, I had eBay and Amazon products inserted into every text body. I figured having targeted products I am talking about, inserted to the right of the text (hub pages allows you to do this), and would make sales. I was wrong. I haven’t had a single affiliate sale. Now, granted I am not really commanding the traffic to garner sales, but I’ve given up on affiliate sales. Adsense is way easier to make money with on hubs.

Also, you may not that I have a PICTURE inserted between two text boxes. This is because if you don’t’ have that picture, Hubpages puts a horizontal Google ad bar at the bottom of your post. I like to have it right in the center of my article. Easier to get a click I think.

Write for Adsense, Not for Readers
Well, I don’t buy in to the whole “content” is king argument. I think content is crap and backlinks are king. When writing for Adsense clicks, content is important, but not witty content. You are going to get most of your click near the top of the page body. You ideally want people to read your stuff for a few seconds, then click on the ad. The longer they read your article the more LESS likely they will click on the ad. Longer reading means that your article is actually answering the questions they are trying to find. And whey then do they need to click on an ad? Now, I know there are exceptions here. For example, you can write about a product or service telling how important it is to solve a problem but don’t TELL them where to go. If you have your keyword phrases right, you may trigger the ads that show that service. People want to find the service and they see a link, they will click. So yes, content matter for clicks, but not in the traditional blogging way. You don’t want an audience, you want people to read and then click. So don’t entertain anyone with your writing. Hell, I think putting up some of that shitty Indian-written content may get you more clicks then native English well crafted informative article. How can you learn to write like this? Experience. You just have to write a LOT of articles for Adsense. Eventually you get to see what works and then write around that style.

No Competition Niches
Yea, if you want to start making money write away, the key is no competition niches or low comp niches. If you pick competitive niches, you will be frustrated and won’t make money. A lot of you are probably doing this. FORGET about going after those 5k a month search terms. Aim at 200-400 search terms a month. Yea, it won’t be a 100 buck a day Adsense hub, but you might be able to get a click once a while.

There are actually two strategies here: Go after niches with high competition and low CPC. You might be able to find some of these, but the niches won’t be in the usual insurance, skin care, credit cards etc. You will have to look off the beaten track or come up with a unique keyword phrase. If you find a niche with 5-20k people a month and there is low competition, go for it. Each click might only be 20 cents, but if you can get 10-20 of them a day, that’s pretty good. Keep in mind though that if you go after the traffic niches, you WILL need to be ranked high for that keyword term. So only do this if there is little to know competition off the bat.

The other strategy is to go after HIGH paying ad clicks. Now, you can be sure that for the main phrases are all beaten to death by internet marketers. But while all the nice, juicy fruit up top has been picked clean by the birds, there are still pieces of fruit to be hanging low or on the ground. You can get 50 people coming to your hub and maybe 10 people click on an low paying ad, giving you a total of 2 bucks. Or you can have 4 people come to your hub and one might click on your ad, but you get 2 bucks from that click.

Either way is viable.

Link to Your Related Hubs
I suggest when making Hubpages, to go at each different niche in bunches of 5 or 10 related niches. This way, you can back them all up with links for your hubs. Since you are ideally targeting no comp niches, these backlinks for other related hubs will really give your hub the juice to get high on the SERP’s. As your hubs mature in the SERP’s and age and gain PR, so will the link juice passed. I try and give 1 way links. If I make 5 hubs, the first has no backlinks, the second hub links to the first, the 3rd links the first and second, and fourth links to first,second,third, and so on.

Get Backlinks
Treat your hubs like an niche blogs and build backlinks. You will make a LOT more money, but it will take effort and time. I do suggest if one hub is doing spectacular, you just go out and buy a domain and toss up a workpress blog on it. Then you laser target that niche blog to that exact keyword and use the hub to send it’s authority to the new blog. Then build backlinks to it and get to #1. Slap on Adsense and you won’t be sharing money with Hubpages. As was pointed out by a reader, hubpages steals part of your clicks, so you get less money. This is why you ultimately want your own site to get 100% of the revenue.


My New Strategy for the Next 100 Hubs

For the next 100 or so hubs, I am eager to see how much more money I can make. Keep in mind that the older my hubs are, the more traffic I should get and the more I should make. If everything works out, my hubs should be getting more traffic and money as time progresses.

Court is making about 12 bucks a day with 70 hubs, but then again, he’s one of the best in the world. But now that I am finding some success here and I know what niches seem to work and what ones don’t, I think I can fine tune my next 100 hubs so that each of them perform. Currently, I have like 30-40 hubs generating me revenue while a good 60 or so are dead weights. If I can make the next 100 or so hubs actually perform, I’ll make a lot more money.

-Laser Target Niches. I have an idea what works. It took me 70 hubs to figure it out. Going to replicate this now and fine hone my niches.

-Cut back to 400-500 word hubs (not convinced the 800 biggies are doing any better than small ones)

-Create 100 Ezine articles and send two backlinks to two hubs. Yea, this is going to be a lot of work. I’m already working on a god damn 200 hubs in a month. I don’t’ think anyone else has done that before. Adding an additional 100 Ezine articles to the plate is going to be tough. Why am I doing this. Because I’m god damn crazy, so deal with it! ;)

Meanwhile for any of you people who are following my little old make money online blog, get your asses into gear and make 30 HUBS. If I can creat 30 hubs in 4 days while working a 10 hours a day full time job, you can surely do that by my next update (7 days)? No excuses, just DO IT.

Meanwhile, I’m going to do another make money online experiment next month. I’m thinking 100 phBay self-hosted ebay niche sites, 200 ezine articles, 100 blogger blog niches, or 1 self hosted blog in a niche with 200 niche based articles, or 3000 backlinks in one month. We’ll see if we can make some money with one of those! Help me choose or toss me some ideas. You can watch me slave away for a month to see if it’s possible to make money!

Ok, enough talk. Back to writing. I’ll post next week when I have 170 hubs and 50 Ezine articles. Geez, even my short updates are turning into Grizzly-style put-em-to-sleep posts. When this experiemnt is finished in 2 weeks, I am going to make a massive, informative hub about exactly how to make money with hub pages using adsense. It’s going to be so long that even Grizzly will weep with envy.

Ben K

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Make Money Online with Hub Pages: 200 Hubs in 30 Days Update I

May 17, 2009 By admin 11 Comments

So, I’ve been spending insane amounts of time writing hubs lately, trying to keep on track with my crazy 200 Hubs in 30 Day challenge. As of right now, I have 32 hubs. It’s been a week so far and I need to have about 6-7 hubs written a day to keep up with the 200 in 30 days. Technically, I should have about 42 hubs by now, but I initially started out with 100 Hubs in 30 Days, then switched over to the 200 Hubs after 4 days — meaning I had to play catch up. I’m almost caught up, if I can pump out another 10 hubs today, I’ll be where I should be.

Now, the question everyone is wondering: Am I making money with hubpages?

The answer is no. I’ve had 3 clicks so far and made a total of about a 1 buck. The 3 clicks came within the past 2 days…when I had about 20 or so hubs.

Court said he had several 0 click days followed by a day where he made 8 bucks. My theory for why he got an 8 bucks in adsense clicks is that people know Court’s hubpage username (apparently). Since his name has been plastered all over hubpages’ official challenge newsletter/post, he’s been getting a lot of traffic to his hub profile. More traffic = more chance of clicks. Or he could just have some sweet keyword niches with no SERP competition.

Why I’m I not getting clicks? I’m convinced it has to to with the fact that I’m not getting any traffic (duh). Since putting up my first hub on Monday (May 11), I’ve had a grand total of 107 visitors according to Google Analytics. Not bad considering it’s only been less than a week. Hubpages are easy to start getting search engine traffic right away, since Google doesn’t seem to do the whole “punish the new site” thing to hub pages.

Now 31 of those visitors came from Google. A look through the keywords used to reach my hubpages show some long tail traffic.

So with 107 visitors, I’ve gotten 3 clicks. That’s around 3% click rate — not really good but not terrible. Most people say about 5% of the people will click on a google ad. Some people can get 10%+ if they style their layout a certain way and craft the writing so as to encourage ad clicks.

So, I can think of several reasons why I’ve made peanuts so far:

1. Niches Are Too Competitive — hubs stuck in the SERP nowhereland
2. No Backlinks to keywords
3. Niches Don’t Have Enough Traffic
4. Content of Hubs

Now, I think I may have been choosing niches and keywords that are too competitive. All of the niches are long tails in competitive niches. But, I am beginning to think that even with the long tails, there is too much competition to really rank high in SERP’s for without backlinks.

My hope was that with long tail keyword targeted hubs, the trust and domain authority of hubpages.com would enable my hubs to rank fairly high for these long tails. But from the traffic I’m getting and Google Analytics, it appears that this is not the case. I basically have two choices here: start sending lots of keyword anchored backlinks to each hub, or start creating niches in uncompetitive hubs.

If I create a lot of niches for keywords that don’t have any real competition, it’s possible to get the hub ranked out high without backlinks and capture that traffic. Now, I suppose this is a viable strategy, but I am trying to create some hubs that can tie into my other blog niches to use them as backlink fodder. I think what I might do is create 15 or so hubs in niches with NO competition and track the results to see if I get traffic and maybe clicks.

Now the other choice is to start to sent out backlinks to my existing hubs. I’ve actually been too buys writing my 7 or so hubs a day to sent any backlinks to them. I think I’ll start doing this.

Now that I have about 32 highly focused niche hubs, I am beginning to see that hubs are just like any other blog. You can’t really expect to make any money with hubs unless they rank in the SERP’s and start to get search engine traffic. Now, I don’t really get much in the way of other “social” hub traffic, but that’s fine by me. I doubt other hubbers would want to click on my ads or buy my ebay products. I suppose I could spend a lot of time trying to get other hubbers to join my fan club and visit my sites — but I hold to my original assertion that to make money online, you need targeted search engine traffic, regardless of whether you have a hub, blog, or website.

My Impressions
It may be too early to call this — I would want around 100 or so hubs before I feel I can state anything with some accuracy — but based on my current performance, I don’t see myself making any real viable money, even if I pump out 200 hubs, if things keep on going the way they are.

As it is, if I only got a couple clicks with 20 or so hubs in a week, I may get more clicks by having 10 times the amount of hubs, just because of the sheer volume, but we will still be talking about pennies and dollars here. Let’s say that in a week my 20 hubs gave me 1 buck. Now I know that for like half the week, I only had 10 hubs, but we’ll ignore that fact now. So 20 hubs gives 1 buck a week. That means I may get 20 bucks a week from 200 hubs. For the sheer effort it is taking to write 200 hubs (we are talking like 5-6 hours of work here a day for a month straight), it’s not really worth it from the monetary sense. However, it’s a great link farm to use to support money sites or support sites, so there is still some good value to the effort.

As stated, I either need to mass target niches with no competition so I can bring in more targeted traffic, or I need to get backlinks to bump up hubs in the SERP’s to increase targeted traffic to those niches. Right now, there is not enough traffic to command any clicks.

What’s clear to me is that some new hubber can’t just go on a hub blitz and expect to make a real income through hubs. First, they will probably not create niche hubs — and these are the type of hubs you will need to make money, provided you get traffic. Second, they won’t get any backlinks to the hubs. Now, I know some people are making a few bucks here and there — probably due to social traffic accidentally clicking on links or an occasional affiliate sale.

What I’m still trying to determine is if an internet marketer can make money. I’m 100 percent sure this is the case, if a concerted attempt is made to get the hubs ranking high.

I’ll keep you guys updated. It’s too early to call anything either way. By the end of nextweek, I hope to have about 100 hubs, so I can give you guys a more accurate assessment of where things lay.

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100 Hubs in 30 Days Case Study

May 11, 2009 By admin 9 Comments

I’ve decided to participate in Court’s 100 Hubs in 30 Day challenge.

Edit: this has now been changed to 200 Hubs in 30 Days!

I’m going to do my own parallel case study and share the results with you guys. I’ll give most of the details (though I don’t think I’ll be giving the specific niches or keywords) about this experiment (how long the content, my style of writing, how I work the backlinks, the SERP rankings for each hub, amount of money I make per hub, etc).

Now, for those of you who don’t know, hub pages are a sort of mini website. You basically write about a specific topic. You can write an article and include video clips and pictures. Hubpages are essentially the same as squidoo lenses, though they haven’t been slapped by Google, yet.

You can ostensibly make money from hubs through Adsense sharing. You enable adsense on your hub and hubpages.com keeps a portion of the revenue from each click.

Personally, I am not really convinced that putting so much effort into someone else’s domain is a good thing and I have doubts about the long term viability of such a money making scheme (it’s better to invest the time in writing content for your own domain). I think it’s better for you to create 100 new niche blogs than 100 hub sites. However, Hubpages are becoming quite popular and it’s a no brainer to create one and get it up and running in a few minutes. Also, having 100 hubs can be powerful linking tool.

Now, I’m willing to bet my socks that the average Hubber doesn’t make much in the way of coin. I’m willing to bet this is because the hubs are not targeted to specific (money-making) niche keywords and are not backed with backlinks.

Proper keyword selection, the use of SEO, and backing up each up with backlinks is a sure way get them ranked high for the keywords AND make some money. The natural domain authority of Hubpages.com gives each up a “leg-up” in the SERP’s — which is probably why some people (including Court), makes a bit of money a few hub pages. I also suspect that people make money from hub pages because of the “focused” nature of each hubs. Since hubs are essentially 1 page (sometimes a very LONG page) minisites, they lend themselves very well to niche targetting. Even if a person doesn’t know what niche marketing is or how to target a specific keyword, the process my happen sort of organically with hubs. You create an account then decide you want to create a hub to “provide” a solution to some problem. You then end up with a hub that happens to target a money keyword and lol and behold, you get some ad clicks.

Now, as I’ve explained, hubpages make money based on Google Adsense clicks. So you need to target your writing and content in such a way as to generate good ads. Now, with Hubpages, the key here is proper keyword selection. Writing a general hub about “John’s Basketball Tips” and a properly keyword targeted hub about “The top acne shampoo products” are worlds apart as far as being able to entice potential clicks.

So, it’s essential to choose keywords that target a problem people are looking to solve (skin care problems, weight, etc) and keywords that actually have advertisers. Quantity here is also going to be key. I’m willing to bet with 100 or so niche-based hubs, you will probably get a few clicks a day due to the sheer amount of hubs.

Part of this experiment will also play around with how to write for Adsense clicks. I’m going to write hubs that beat around the bush and try to write so as to get the user to click on the links. I’m also going to create really good hubs that answer the questions being asked by the user. I want to compare the ad click results for each “style” of writing.

So, here are the rules I will be following:

- Create 3, high-quality 400-500-word hubs each day.
- Each Hub will target a niche keyword that has money potential
- Each Hub will be written with SE) in mind
- 30 Hubs will not provide an actual answer (to encourage clicks) to the “problem”
- 15 Hubs will not be backed up with Backlinks;
- 85 Hubs will receive a dose of backlinks from AMA, UAW, BS, BMD, and a few other programs
- I’ll post an update every couple days on this site, detailing my progress

Here are the major questions I want to find answers to

- Can I make money with Hubpages
- Will answering the “question” reduce the number of Adsense Ad clicks?
- Do you need to send backlinks to each hub to actually make money

So it’s time for me to start writing those hub pages.

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