But I’ll tell you right now where the plan will probably fail.

1. For one, you won’t rank #1 with your hubs — no way without backlinks
2. You are going to need a lot more than 200 hubs got get 60 bucks a day…
3. Remember, hubpages takes 40% of your impressions, I’m assuming you didn’t calculate this in your total.
4. You and your friend are splitting your revenue, meaning you only get 50%…
3. Court’s formula is only applicable for number position, and let me tell you, it takes months of backlinking effort to get the number one spot. Do you want to put months of backlinklinking your hub to get #1? I’d say if you want to put that effort in, use a blogger blog or make your own .info site — something that does not cut you out 40%.

I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I’ve noticed hubpages domain authority is not that strong. I don’t know if it was like this several months ago, but i’ve noticed most hubs don’t even rank on the first page. Now if you find niche with ABSOLUTELY no competition, then sure you may rank, and even number one. But if there are PR 1/2 around, you won’t be number one. You probably won’t even outrank PR 0’s, at least not for a while.

So in short, you have a good strategy, but it’s not as clear cut as you make it. As for teaming up? Let me ask? Why? You are both writing hubs, so what’s the reasons for sharing your adsense. In my opinion, it’s a lot safer (trust me, if you do make some money, things can get nasty with a shared account — I wouln’t even go there) just to do it on your own. There is NO real benifit to teaming up with someone when you are yourself doing half the hub writing work. If your friend wants to spend all his time writing ezines/squido/infobarrels for backlinks, well that’s a partnership, but not when you guys both go it with hubs.

my .02

I hope you don’t mind another question LOL. I wanted to run our plan by you and see if you approve, since we used your blog entries to make our plan.

My very trustworthy friend and I have decided to build our hubs together, with one adsense ID for now, since it is quantity more than anything else that seems to bring in clicks. After taking notes on everything you did, we came up with this plan:

1. Make 200 hubs by the end of August (20 by each of us every three days)
2. Target niches with 200-400 searches per month, with lots of adwords ads and competition pages in the top five mostly PR 0 or PR 1 or occassionally PR 2, with minimum CPC .30 cents.
3. Build 500-600 word hubs, occasionally to 800. Use no videos, news links, amazon products or ebay products.
4. Put a picture between the first and second text capsule
5. Wait until we’re done with all 200 hubs before we add any back links whatsoever.
6. From each batch of 20 we have 19 as described above, and one with searches between 1000-5000, with CPC around 70 cents or so. The competition is a bit stiffer, with PR 2 and 3 pages. Using Court’s formula this puts each batch of 20 at about $100 potential per month for the main keyword we targeted only ( not counting rankings and clicks for long tails) so $1000 per month potential not counting long tails.
7. Link each hub to four or five related hubs.

Our theory is that because we are picking such noncompetitive niches that the authority of hubpages will allow us to rank number one for our main keyword in G, without any backlinking whatsoever in nearly every case. When we are all done we will build backlinks for any hubs that are not ranking at number one for the main keyword.

We figure that overall, with ranking at number one for the main keyword on each hub, we will make about $2000 a month total, based upon searches for the main keyword ($1000/mo) and other searches for unintentional longtails ($1000 month) after 30 days. 190 hubs have a monetary potential of about $1.50-3.00 dollars a month each and 10 have a potential of around $50.00 a month each.

Any thoughts? We tried to follow the methods you said you used at the end of your experiment as closely as possible. Any suggestions, comments or chidings would be welcome.
Regards,

Jonas and Jonas’ Friend

I will try to answer your questions if I can. Writing hubs rather than blogs has its pros and cons. One advantage that Hubpages has over a new blog or website is that they are indexed quickly and rank better than a new blog or domain would, because the hubpages domain already has some authority with the G-Man. But, as you mentioned, hubpages takes forty percent of your impressions (earnings) so you have to decide if the trade off is worth it.

I would say that in the case of a blog versus hubpage, you are going to want to choose hubpages every time, because in my opinion the trade off of getting only sixty percent of the clicks is worth the time you’ll save not having to do initial indexing and backlinking work to get a blog to rank as well as a non-backlinked blog.

You may want to consider more carefully if it is a domain versus hubpages. Once you register the domain it is yours. Not only will you be able to make 100 percent of the adsense revenue, but you’ll also be able to sell the domain if you want.

For me, hubpages is my choice every time, because I can’t afford to buy domains at the moment. Hubpages allows me to put up a bunch of “sites” (hubs) with no monetary cost whatsoever. However, once I am making actual money with adsense I will switch to sites because of the ownership and full adsense revenue issues.

Also, building hubs at first gives you amazing backlink opportunities for your sites. Like in my case, I will still have a use for my Hubs once I get domains because they will be in the same niche. That way I link an Ezine to two infobarrels, each infobarrel to two hubs and each hub to two domains, which gives me quite a bit of backlink power for my domains.

I hope this helped. Good luck with your projects.

Just wondering are writing hub pages better then writing blogs? after all dont hub pages take a commision of your adsense ..

appreciate any answers you can give ..

Yes, I was adding my links at the bottom of the page, which I can see how that would irritate the administrators of the site, since they want people to stay on infobarrel for as long as possible, and links at the bottom of the article would influence someone to leave the site. I have removed all of my links, and will wait a few days before attempting to put them naturally into the articles.

If you don’t do the above, you won’t have a problem with them editing out your links.

Glad to see so many of your students inspired — and many of them are starting to make money with hubs using your techniques, which is fantastic. Yes, I’ve really changed my mind about the whole content is crap thing. I do feel that content is not important for getting indexed and ranked (provided you do the SEO and don’t rely on natural links), but there is no denying that you end up having to watch your back when you start to make money. It’s not worth the risk, no way. Better to give good content and consistantly earn money from google without fear of penalty.

I hope your own hubs are doing well! You’re working backlinks on 100 hubs, but I’ve chosen to go with mass amounts. I’d be interested in hearing how you do with 100 SEO’ed hubs. From looking at my stats, it’s just a matter of getting more traffic, be it through less hubs with higher rankings for each hub or more many more hubs that are ranked lower.

Thanks for stopping in!

Best,

Ben